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No Flash for the iPhone

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So Flash isn’t good enough for the iPhone.  Not having a rich client on the iPhone is nonsensical so Steve must have a flash-like play up his sleeve. Perhaps Microsoft and Apple are cooking up a little SilverLight pie?

Microsoft need a serious partner to put SilverLight on the “its not a Windows only play” route. Steve hates giving license fees to Adobe and would prefer to have his own solution. So barring that the best spoiling play is to get into bed with Microsoft. Who knows what deal he could get from Microsoft on the back of that bet, better support for Microsoft Office on the Mac, or even access to the Bejing Olympics for Apple technology…

Written by Joe

March 7, 2008 at 8:34 pm

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  1. What is this “rich client” you speak of? Video? Vector graphics? iPhone supports both…

    Rowan Nairn

    March 7, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  2. > Microsoft need a serious partner to put SilverLight on the “its not a Windows only play� route.

    Didn’t Nokia just sign a deal with MS to put silverlight onto S60 handsets? A pretty serious partner.

    John O'Shea

    March 7, 2008 at 10:58 pm

  3. Rowan,

    see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client_(computing). I mean a web client that supports richer interaction characteristics that those supported by HTML/AJAX.

    Joe

    March 8, 2008 at 3:22 am

  4. John,

    I think the nokia play is a Windows mobile play.

    Joe.

    Joe

    March 8, 2008 at 3:23 am

  5. Hey Joe,

    I’m not looking for another vague phrase like “richer interaction characteristics”. I’m interested in what exactly you think is missing from the iphone web browser (and the open web in general) that would be solved by adding Flash or Silverlight. Faster code?

    I’ve seen a bunch of people advocating these proprietary frameworks as if they’re “the web done right” and I’m trying to understand why. The fact is, developing for the web is hard mainly because the web is based on open standards. What’s great about this is it allows multiple implementers to create browsers on an even footing. The problem is that inevitably they don’t implement or innovate in lockstep, and don’t implement each other’s bugs perfectly either. If Abobe or Flash were to allow other people to implement their standards then those platforms would have exactly the same problems. Unless you want Adobe or Microsoft to have control over the web platform, how do you see them as long-term viable options?

    Rowan

    Rowan Nairn

    March 9, 2008 at 8:00 am

  6. I’m all for the OpenWeb and open standards but Flash has become a defacto web standard despite being controlled by a single vendor. So not having Flash makes the iPhone not quite a full web platform.

    Joe

    March 9, 2008 at 6:23 pm

  7. Sure, I agree with that. Flash is definitely ubiquitous enough to make its absence annoying. It’s just that your original suggestion, that either they’ll port Silverlight or come up with a Cocoa Web Plugin or something, doesn’t solve that. Given that they already have Quicktime, Canvas, SVG and the rest of Webkit’s entourage, I don’t see that they really need to bring in a big monolithic platform like that. It seems like they’d be better off improving the development environment for those technologies instead.

    Rowan Nairn

    March 9, 2008 at 8:22 pm

  8. Observing what might happen is not the same as endorsing of the idea.

    Joe

    March 9, 2008 at 8:32 pm

  9. I think the Nokia hookup is for the whole shebang. It’s probably a two fingers to Android.

    I think this statement by Jobs is just his way to get Adobe get the finger out.

    BTW, even if they did go with Silverlight then the iPhone still can’t be considered a “full web platform” in your eyes, as it still won’t have Flash support?

    Johnny K

    March 11, 2008 at 12:27 am


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